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Originally Posted by lakong
In a recent post by bond18 title Permatilt at:
Permatilt by - bond18
he says:
I also played a $500 WSOP satellite on Pacific with 4 seats guaranteed and made the final table. I raised TT utg with 15 BB’s, got flatted in EP, then the SB decided to come along as well. The flop came 832 and I got it in vs the SB who had me a brilliant pre flop call with 88 getting way, way more than the implied odds on a set he needed verse my 15 BB stack. Way more, I assure you.
The flat call by the SB didn't seem so bad to me, but bond18 implies that it was awful. First, it seems like the SB would get just about the right odds if he hits his set and bond pays him off which is likely. Second, 88 just might be good at this point. I realize that the SB would be out of position on a low flop and it would be a very difficult spot, but do you really want to lay it down in this situation? I just don't see this. That said, I would love to hear what bond and others have to say about this.
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I have a feeling that Bond will say something like:
My range with a 15 bb stack raising UTG into a full table where I am more than likely to get at least called if not put allin pre is waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of 88. Put another way: What hands is Bond18 raising UTG with that stacksize at a full table that 88 is ahead of? Answer: (more than likely)NOTHING!!!!! The worst hand that Bond is prolly raising is AQs here, so the best that sb could hope for is a race vs his possible range. And teh sarcasm was thick but yeah you should basically never be "set mining" vs a 15bb effective stack even with the caller in teh pot.
Am I close Bond?